Having a time with drum brakes

[zodiac572]

Hello everyone, need some opinions as it seems the new springs are made a bit different then the old worn out ones , seems the brakes still have some play in them and arent sitting right

 

[GoToGuy]

Uh..are both sides like this? Did you disassemble both? And you didn't take a couple photos before this goat rope?
1. The star wheel adjuster has to be stroked by the arm on other side to function.
2. The springs are in wrong positions.
3. All future work , work smarter, take photos , more the
merrier. It's 4 seconds that will save you hours of grief.
Let me find a picture.....

 

[GoToGuy]

Number 8 goes over the center pin top to retain the wing against the shies., recheck your assembly # 14

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[Schurkey]

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As said...star wheel goes to the rear, so the lever arm can turn it.

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SOMETHING is preventing the shoes from touching the anchor pin at the top. Jammed against the backing plate, stuck on the park-brake spreader-bar...whatever it is, it's gotta be slapped into place so the tops of the shoes touch the anchor pin.

I suspect the spring that is too long in the photo...goes on the front shoe.

 

[termite]

SOMETHING is preventing the shoes from touching the anchor pin at the top.

Looks like the parking brake strut (#6 in drawing above), located below the wheel cylinder isn't seated properly on the front shoe.

I suspect the spring that is too long in the photo...goes on the front shoe

+1 vote for this based on a rusty memory.

 

[1998_K1500_Sub]

Here’s how they’re supposed to be assembled…. Left and right PICTURED BELOW.

Note difference in the primary (front) and secondary (rear) shoes.

Note the spring sizes and locations.

Sorry, the adjuster starwheel is not visible in either picture.

The starwheels are DIFFERENT left and right, so don’t mix them up (one side uses right-hand thread, the other used left-hand thread). This is required so that when the starwheel is rotated by the adjustment pawl, it will cause the shoes to spread.

The spring that STRADDLES the starwheel should not be TOUCHING the starwheel (as the one in your picture does), as it will interfere with proper operation.

 

[Schurkey]

^^^ Note that that's the opposite side from the original pictures--so the primary and secondary shoes are reversed.

Primary shoe = Shorter. Often lighter-colored, thicker, softer or some combination of those characteristics. Goes FORWARD.

Secondary shoe = Longer. Often darker-colored, thinner, harder or some combination. Goes to the REAR.

 

[GoToGuy]

Did you figure it out? You had 7 mistakes. Brakes are more important than anything else, unless your on fire, then that's important. But if can't stop , your hosed. And then whoever or whatever stops you is screwed or dead. Don't take shortcuts with brakes.
Use the manual, take pictures , draw pictures, if your not sure , work smarter, not harder.

 

[1998_K1500_Sub]

Probably the take-away lesson for OP or any other readers is to disassemble and reassemble only one side at a time(!). Thus, when in doubt during reassembly, simply look to the opposite side for guidance.

Also, check the starwheel adjusters for ease of operation. Once removed (e.g., during brake disassembly) they should rotate freely and easily. If not, disassemble them, clean, lubricate and reassemble, or replace with new.

 

[zodiac572]

Probably the take-away lesson for OP or any other readers is to disassemble and reassemble only one side at a time(!). Thus, when in doubt during reassembly, simply look to the opposite side for guidance.

Also, check the starwheel adjusters for ease of operation. Once removed (e.g., during brake disassembly) they should rotate freely and easily. If not, disassemble them, clean, lubricate and reassemble, or replace with new.

Draw back here is the rear brakes never worked from get go as previous owner cut the lines to save money and messed up the springs , hence even when i kept one side assembled there was no way i could have reassembled it