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Always disconnect the negative terminal first.
No matter what you are doing.
And always reconnect the negative terminal last .
Never pull the postive if the negative is stiill connected.
Pull Negative first and put negative on last.
Negitive first and negitive last.
Basically the positve side is the power and the negative side is the ground.
The ground keeps random power from going through components that power shouldnt go through.
Never ever disconnect the positive battery cable with the negative connected.
No matter what you are doing you have to pull the negative cable off of the battery first.
Negative first and negative last.
That’s what I did. I didn’t remove the positive without removing the negative first nor did I put on the negative without putting on the positive first. Thank you for the advice though.
 

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"Autozone" or most any other auto parts store does not genuinely load-test batteries. They have a cheap hand-held machine that plays Van Halen at the battery until it submits, then generates a print-out showing battery capacity based on capacitance, or resistance, or the phase of the moon.

A REAL load test will actually load the battery instead of simulating a load test.

IF there's an intermittent connection inside the battery, a single load-test may not catch the battery when the connection is poor.


New ones, genuine copper not crappy copper-coated aluminum, (CCA) with built-in terminals NOT TEMPORARY CLAMP-ON TERMINALS that everyone on Earth seems to think are permanent replacements.

At least 4-gauge, not cheap and thin 6-gauge which is what the parts stores around here want to sell. Not thicker than 2-gauge. You don't need heavier than 2-gauge cables, and gigantically thick cables will need to be supported so they don't pull too hard on whatever they're attached to.

It would be worth checking the service manual for your vehicle to determine the size of the original cables.
Sounds good I’ll check the manual tomorrow and see what size cable it recommends. Worst case I can just take out the positive battery cable and find the equivalent size at the store.

Where can I get the battery legitimately load tested? Thanks.
 

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I’ll check the manual tomorrow and see what size cable it recommends.
Yes.

Worst case I can just take out the positive battery cable and find the equivalent size at the store.
Unless someone has already replaced the original cable with a cheapie.

Where can I get the battery legitimately load tested?
Hard to say. There was a big push years ago, shops were dumping "real" load-testers to "upgrade" to the simulated-load testers. The simulated ones are cheaper, easier-to-use, probably have multi-language "assistance", and on-board printers so the customer has "evidence" of the failure.

Call around, see who still has got the "good ol' equipment".
 

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Yes.


Unless someone has already replaced the original cable with a cheapie.


Hard to say. There was a big push years ago, shops were dumping "real" load-testers to "upgrade" to the simulated-load testers. The simulated ones are cheaper, easier-to-use, probably have multi-language "assistance", and on-board printers so the customer has "evidence" of the failure.

Call around, see who still has got the "good ol' equipment".
If I can find one I will. To be fair the battery is at least 6 years old as I’ve had the truck for nearly 6 years. It wouldn’t surprise me if it was on its way out. That being said the fact that it wouldn’t start even with booster cables tells me something more is up.
 

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just an update. This morning I went out to take this pic for you guys and I noticed the positive terminal came loose from when I tightened it yesterday evening to get home. It just wanted to twist off when I touched it. So I guess it came loose on the way to the store yesterday evening and that’s why it wouldn’t start. I loosened it and tightened it with a wrench on both sides so it’s for sure tight now. If this happens again I’ll just get a new terminal.
 

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It’s not a side terminal battery. It has the post on the top with the universal battery terminal. It was like that when I got the truck so no telling how old they are.

I got rid of the clamp-on top post crapola and went with military style terminals from NAPA and made my own battery cables with proper copper lugs. Amazing the difference in starting and general electrical service.
 

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Sounds good I’ll check the manual tomorrow and see what size cable it recommends. Worst case I can just take out the positive battery cable and find the equivalent size at the store.

Where can I get the battery legitimately load tested? Thanks.

Any generator shop will have an assortment of load testers. Look for your local ONAN or Generac repair shop. Some RV repairs, if they're old enough, may have a carbon-pile load tester that will work if anyone there remembers how to use it.
 

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The kind that crimp onto the wire, or are manufactured right on the cable.

Your cable-end is toast, the existing cables aren't far behind. Replace the pair with a new cable having a top-post clamp.
 
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