New Sanden Compressor: High Suction/Low Discharge Pressure?

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It’s been quite awhile since I changed the vac pump oil…I’ve probably pulled over a dozen systems down with it, both 134 and 410.

Understood.

I change mine pretty often, but that's because I often have tramp flush that vaporizes and re-condenses in the vac oil, causing the pump to lose efficiency (won't vac fully).
 

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Figured it out. It was the manifold gauge connector. Something was going on that it would register the vacuum and it would register the pressure the first can put in the high side port with the engine off, but it would not respond to the drop in pressure when compressor cycled.

A new set of Chinese couplers on a HF manifold set and we’re back in business.

I didn’t weigh the charge, but by the cans I should have been very close to 4#. Discovered my thermocouple was bad on my electronic t-stat, so best I could read my analog one I was between 5-10 degrees superheat at the accumulator.

Things I noticed:
The rear suction lines were cold long before the evaporator outlet/accumulator inlet was cold. Even after the air in the front was blowing cool. Didn’t matter if the rear was on or not.

I started charging with both front and rear blowing. Suction and discharge pressure was around 50/200 but I was still short a couple cans and really high superheat. Kicked the rear off and pressures dropped…suction to around 30.

After another can or two and I kicked rear back on. Didn’t notice much difference one or off after that until I was finished.

Was blowing pretty cold in the driveway but didn’t measure the temp. Give it a good test run tomorrow with the sun’s out. Has to be better than the last few weeks in the heat without. Didn’t realize how tough I used to be in the old square body…

Thanks for the advice.

Mike
 

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Figured it out. It was the manifold gauge connector. Something was going on that it would register the vacuum and it would register the pressure the first can put in the high side port with the engine off, but it would not respond to the drop in pressure when compressor cycled.

A new set of Chinese couplers on a HF manifold set and we’re back in business.

I didn’t weigh the charge, but by the cans I should have been very close to 4#. Discovered my thermocouple was bad on my electronic t-stat, so best I could read my analog one I was between 5-10 degrees superheat at the accumulator.

Things I noticed:
The rear suction lines were cold long before the evaporator outlet/accumulator inlet was cold. Even after the air in the front was blowing cool. Didn’t matter if the rear was on or not.

I started charging with both front and rear blowing. Suction and discharge pressure was around 50/200 but I was still short a couple cans and really high superheat. Kicked the rear off and pressures dropped…suction to around 30.

After another can or two and I kicked rear back on. Didn’t notice much difference one or off after that until I was finished.

Was blowing pretty cold in the driveway but didn’t measure the temp. Give it a good test run tomorrow with the sun’s out. Has to be better than the last few weeks in the heat without. Didn’t realize how tough I used to be in the old square body…

Thanks for the advice.

Mike
Your rear suction line observation is what I mentioned prior. Rear expansion valve fully opens with a low charge robbing the front system of cooling. With a front orifice tube/rear expansion valve setup running with a low charge volume, the rear will be ICE cold and the front still blow warmish. Once the refrigerant charge approaches the correct volume the rear expansion valve will close off as the calipary tube senses that it no longer requires full opening to cool the rear evaporator. Normal on the setup and the same obervation I have made on every van and SUV with the same style system.
 

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Gave it a few test runs and in 90 degree plus heat the AC does a pretty good job. It’s definitely better than with the old setup but who knows how old the original compressor was and I was a bit sloppier charging than I was this time. Wish I’d have known about the larger capacity compressor before, but the 4440 doesn’t seem to bad.
 
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