Wobble When Braking With New Components

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Okay, so for the passed week i’ve been through the process of elimination on trying to get rid of a death wobble while braking. So far in the passed week i’ve done pads, rotors, calipers, drums, shoes, and still no luck. I replaced all ball joints and bushings along with tie rods and there seems to be no play. At this point I’ve run out of ideas so any input would greatly be appreciated.

Greetings 2RED,

'Death Wobble' implies steering, but since we're all remote the more you spell out exactly
what you are experiencing the better we can visualize the systems interacting with each other.

Please elaborate on the wobble. More specifically:

1) Did you feel the wobble as side-to-side shimmying of the steering wheel? Or was the
vibration fed back to you via the brake pedal? Or both wheel & pedal vibrating?

2) Was the truck vibrating prior to the brake work, and the brake job was performed in order to cure that?
Or was the truck vibration-free before the repair effort, and the vibration only showed up after the new parts were
installed?

3) What's the year, make, & model of the GMT400 that you are working on? Bonus points if your glove box still
has the original RPO listing affixed to the inside, and you can tell us the brake RPO code? (JBn or JDn) We have
talent in the forum that are seriously familiar with the ins & outs of each brake combo.

4) What brand brake parts did you purchase/install? The brake gurus in this forum have 'proven good' parts
recipes that we can compare your parts list against, on the chance that your truck is dealing with new parts
that would have run afoul of the QA processes back in the day.

5) When working on prior 'vibrating brake' issues, I've been humbled by working on a brake issue that *must* be
happening in the front, and only after I spend lots of time unable to fix something that isn't broken, I'll go out back
and find the problem there. :-( And on the next vehicle, the exact opposite happens. Phooey!

So let's figure out if the root cause of the problem is in the front or rear of your truck. Assuming that your mechanical,
cable-operated emergency brakes are working, accelerate up to/slightly beyond the 'death wobble' speed, and now slow
the truck using ONLY the emergency brake pedal. IF the problem still shows while you are doing this, then you have to
double check everything in the back until you find/fix the issue.

On the other hand, IF by slowing down the truck using only the rear shoes via the emergency brake cables and there's
no wobble at all, then the problem has to be in the front. Either bad new brake parts (brake parts as perpetrator) -or-
the brake parts are good, and they are a victim of excess play somewhere in the front suspension and/or steering
system.

Please perform the test in #4 and let us know what you find. And give us as much detail as possible on the rest of
the questions. Fortunately the GMT400 brakes can be made to function quite well, but it takes a lot of attention to
detail in order to achieve this.

Best of luck. Happy Hunting --
 

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...i got aligned back in April after installing the lift kit,

Wow. That's a huge variable that you didn't mention previously. Photos of your modified suspension
would be helpful, especially to those who have experience w/lifted trucks. While writing my previous
reply I was assuming a stock suspension vehicle.


which I’m going to try one idea that seems obvious I didn’t think of. There’s a heim joint that connects from the steering drop to the front crossmember drop that was with the lift kit and i didn’t receive all of the pieces to install it so i just left it out. So my guess is the steering drop could be rocking back and fourth since it doesn’t have the heim joint to support it.

Yup. Get the truck put together as the aftermarket vendor specifies in the directions first. And if the problem
still exists, then procede with the testing outlined previously to figure out if the brake-induced wobble is
originating in the front axle or rear axle.

Let us know what you are working with, including lift kit, suspension & brake bits.
And once you get all this sorted out, please reply back to this thread and share
what it took to make this right for the benefit of others.

Safe travels --
 
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All mating surfaces clean between hub, rotor/drum, and wheel? Death wobble as in brakes pulsating or shaking in the steering and suspension components? How's your front end alignmen
I did a recent brake job on an 03 Tacoma. On freeway, I had steering wheel shaking and when braking mega thumping. It was the brand new rear drums. Returned and put another set on…it was worse. They were out of round and out of balance. Put the OEM drums back on as is and problem solved.
What brand parts did you use, specifically the drums and rotors?
The drums and shoes were from oreillys and the pads rotors and calipers are from autozone. I currently work at autozone so it makes it easy to make things right if it ends up being they’re parts. I’ve ruled out it being an issue with the rear because the rear brake line was disconnected until I started working out all of the brake issues
 

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Wow. That's a huge variable that you didn't mention previously. Photos of your modified suspension
would be helpful, especially to those who have experience w/lifted trucks. While writing my previous
reply I was assuming a stock suspension vehicle.




Yup. Get the truck put together as the aftermarket vendor specifies in the directions first. And if the problem
still exists, then procede with the testing outlined previously to figure out if the brake-induced wobble is
originating in the front axle or rear axle.

Let us know what you are working with, both lift kit, suspension & brake bits.
And once you get all this sorted out, please reply back to this thread and share
what it took to make this right for the benefit of others.

Safe travels --
 

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First off, my apologies to everyone for not specifying the setup, definitely could’ve been more helpful and thank you everyone for the advice you have given. The truck has 6 inch rough country lift kit, trq oe replacement tie rods, stock upper and lower control arms, moog upper and lower ball joints. It did end up being the heim joints. In conclusion, even if your not sent the complete set of hardware, do not skip over it. Every piece has a purpose in these kits and is there for a reason.
 
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