Transmission fluid exchange

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Truck is a 94' Yukon. A few years ago, I was towing on the freeway in somewhat of a convoy with my buddies, on our way to the Colorado river by Yuma. I noticed a bunch of fluid on my back window, then got a check engine light. Pulled over and smelled the trans fluid, and knew right away what happened. I checked the code, which verified that I overheated the transmission. I dont remember what temp sends the code, but I do remember it was some crazy high temp. I assumed I fried it, but was able to get it home after letting it cool.

I have since bought a different truck for towing, and have just been using the yukon as a DD. I added a temp gauge to the test port, had the fluid exhanged at a shop, and added an aux cooler. At the time, I assumed the trans was done, so I didnt change the filter when I had the shop do the fluid exchange.

Now, 50,000 miles after that, its still going strong. The temp runs a little high, about 220F at speed, and the fluid stays black all the time. It slips a little, only when cold, on the 3-4 shift.

Im putting a new motor in it next week, so Id like to do a little work to the transmission at the same time. When the shop did the fluid exchange, they had an interesting setup id like to build. It had two large plastic "beakers", or graduated cylinders. They hooked each to a trans cooler line, and filled one up with fresh fluid, then just used the transmission to pump the old fluid out and suck the new fluid in. I cant seem to find large plastic containers with petcocks to make such a thing with. All the fluid exchange machines I see online are very expensive, and use an electric pump.

Anyone made one of these? Im considering using plastic fuel jugs like these; https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...LKVGvhpah-7y7g9UTAl7D_wkv_opckFRoCF3cQAvD_BwE

Ill be replacing the trans filter, and adding a remote Derale filter before the before the aux cooler and radiator cooler.
 

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Truck is a 94' Yukon. A few years ago, I was towing on the freeway in somewhat of a convoy with my buddies, on our way to the Colorado river by Yuma. I noticed a bunch of fluid on my back window, then got a check engine light. Pulled over and smelled the trans fluid, and knew right away what happened. I checked the code, which verified that I overheated the transmission. I dont remember what temp sends the code, but I do remember it was some crazy high temp. I assumed I fried it, but was able to get it home after letting it cool.

I have since bought a different truck for towing, and have just been using the yukon as a DD. I added a temp gauge to the test port, had the fluid exhanged at a shop, and added an aux cooler. At the time, I assumed the trans was done, so I didnt change the filter when I had the shop do the fluid exchange.

Now, 50,000 miles after that, its still going strong. The temp runs a little high, about 220F at speed, and the fluid stays black all the time. It slips a little, only when cold, on the 3-4 shift.

Im putting a new motor in it next week, so Id like to do a little work to the transmission at the same time. When the shop did the fluid exchange, they had an interesting setup id like to build. It had two large plastic "beakers", or graduated cylinders. They hooked each to a trans cooler line, and filled one up with fresh fluid, then just used the transmission to pump the old fluid out and suck the new fluid in. I cant seem to find large plastic containers with petcocks to make such a thing with. All the fluid exchange machines I see online are very expensive, and use an electric pump.

Anyone made one of these? Im considering using plastic fuel jugs like these; https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...LKVGvhpah-7y7g9UTAl7D_wkv_opckFRoCF3cQAvD_BwE

Ill be replacing the trans filter, and adding a remote Derale filter before the before the aux cooler and radiator cooler.
I'd rebuild the transmission while the engine is out so that you're not doing the transmission R/R twice and you start with a fresh powertrain...If it's slipping on the 2-3 shift now, it's only a matter of time before the 3-4 clutch goes out all together...I'm actually surprised the 3-4 pack survived all the overheating and fluid loss episodes...I'd also add a large aftermarket cooler to keep transmission temperatures down around 200 max...
 

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I'm actually surprised the 3-4 pack survived all the overheating and fluid loss episodes
Right, Its pretty amazing its been going this long. Im considering a trans rebuild, but thats even more expensive than the motor. $3780 I was quoted at a local shop a couple weeks ago.
 

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Right, Its pretty amazing its been going this long. Im considering a trans rebuild, but thats even more expensive than the motor. $3780 I was quoted at a local shop a couple weeks ago.
For $3750, they better figure out a way to make that transmission (and vehicle) fly under its own power.

My 4L60Es start a lot lower than that and already have some choice upgrades (shift kit, Corvette servo, Sonnax HP boost valve, 97+ bonded steel/rubber pistons, plus everything else replaced that needs to be)...Per your profile, you're in Tucson and I'm in Vegas but I'd be willing to take on the work if you're able to get me the transmission.

Feel free to send me a PM with a good contact number if you're interested and we will go from there.
 
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It had two large plastic "beakers", or graduated cylinders. They hooked each to a trans cooler line, and filled one up with fresh fluid, then just used the transmission to pump the old fluid out and suck the new fluid in. I cant seem to find large plastic containers with petcocks to make such a thing with. All the fluid exchange machines I see online are very expensive, and use an electric pump.

Anyone made one of these? Im considering using plastic fuel jugs like these; https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...LKVGvhpah-7y7g9UTAl7D_wkv_opckFRoCF3cQAvD_BwE

Ill be replacing the trans filter, and adding a remote Derale filter before the before the aux cooler and radiator cooler.

I believe the pro transmission flush machines use a bladder system such that the transmission fluid pressure forces the new fluid in by filling up on the “dirty” side of the bladder to push the clean side through the lines. If you break the lines at the cooler to do a DIy system you would only get fluid out, but no suction in. The suction is at the pickup tube at the bottom of the transmission. There is Only pressure in the cooler lines. Could be wrong.
 

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...Id like to do a little work to the transmission at the same time. When the shop did the fluid exchange, they had an interesting setup id like to build. It had two large plastic "beakers", or graduated cylinders. They hooked each to a trans cooler line, and filled one up with fresh fluid, then just used the transmission to pump the old fluid out and suck the new fluid in.
I believe the pro transmission flush machines use a bladder system such that the transmission fluid pressure forces the new fluid in by filling up on the “dirty” side of the bladder to push the clean side through the lines. If you break the lines at the cooler to do a DIy system you would only get fluid out, but no suction in. The suction is at the pickup tube at the bottom of the transmission. There is Only pressure in the cooler lines. Could be wrong.
The dealership I worked at used the latter system. It worked great on newer transmissions for routine maintenance. But, every high mileage transmission we used it on failed immediately after. If your fluid's bad your transmission probably won't tolerate a sudden complete refreshing of the fluid.

There was a member here who'd found his fluid burnt and bad. He started dropping his pan and replacing the fluid that came out at every oil change for about two years and rehabilitated his fluid without trashing his transmission. You only get about a third of the fluid at a time this way, and you'll go through a lot of fluid, but if it gets your transmission another year down the road it might be worth it.
 

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That’s a deadly combo.
It should be, I thought I was screwed when I saw the temp. That was years ago now, and 50k miles, including a 2000mile roadtrip.

There was a member here who'd found his fluid burnt and bad. He started dropping his pan and replacing the fluid that came out at every oil change for about two years and rehabilitated his fluid without trashing his transmission. You only get about a third of the fluid at a time this way, and you'll go through a lot of fluid, but if it gets your transmission another year down the road it might be worth it.
I did this with a pump through the dipstick tube a few times, it didnt appear to have any effect, so I stopped.

Im putting a new aluminum radiator and a larger aux cooler on when I pull the motor, thats why Im adding the remote filter to hopefully protect the new rad and cooler until I can get a new trans in. My current aux cooler doesnt appear to have any effect at all, but I mounted it in an unusual place with an electric fan. It gets insanely hot here, so I didnt want to reduce AC performance by putting it in front of the condensor.
 

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