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DonYukon

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So, this wasnt me per say but I was involved. little context
I was a Crew Cheif in the Airforce on a Tanker. I was training 2 newer airmen. Now when I say newer guys, these guys were on the flight line less than a year but had all their qualifications training. so theoretically they were qualified to do all the tasks asked of them within their skill level. However, because no book will replace OJT, we give the new guys a lot of slack in the first year while they work out the kinks. I also was one of the best Crew Chiefs in the unit for my rank, wasn't scared to ask questions, studied the Tech Orders like the bible and volunteered regularly with other specialty's because I had mastered everything in my own career feild minus the tasks that required a higher rank. I usually turned out the best techs on my team. I generally loved teaching and most of my subordinates admired my patience and the way i could adjust quickly to how they learned best. Not one of my proudest moments what happens next.

We were working nights and it was about 2 Am. We had just caught a jet (means just landed). And we were putting it to bed (servicing time sensitive items and doing inspections and shutting it down for the night) Most of the time I had the newbies do tasks that were the least likley to cause damage or bodily harm if done incorrectly and these guys so far were showing me, they were focused and on point. I would periodically check on the work they did while doing my walk around inspection looking for leaks, bird strikes, missing hardware ect... Everything was going good. they serviced the Number 1 and 3 engines with ease and seemed competent in what they were doing. One comes downstairs and says That the APU ---
(Auxilarry Power Unit - basiaclly a small jet engine used as a starter for the bigger jet engines so you dont need to use an outside source of Air or power to get the engines going) --- was low on oil. I said ok you comfortable with servicing it? he said he was good. I quizzed him on a few easy to screw up items which he answered and told him to make sure he did it by the book and stop if you got questions.
Fast forward 15 minutes and I got curious what was taking so long. I go back to the back of the jet and saw him pumping oil from the service cart. I asked him how low it was he said about half way down the needle. I said okay how much have you put in while eyeing 2 cases of oil cans up on the stand... he said Well I refilled the cart 2 times. (cart holds about 5 quarts) The APU if memory serves me right was a 9-quart sealed system because its hidden inside the tail cone of the aircraft. I say sealed because unlike the regular engines it's possible to over service it. It uses 2 Quick disconnect couplers one is a pressure line that feeds the system and the other acts as a overflow/air releif. In theory with the second QD connected you cannot overservice it because as soon as you put the 9 quarts in the any additional fluid will just overflow into a catch bucket on the stand. wellllllllllll as soon as he said that I jokingly asked why he was filling his bucket with oil to which he said nothing came out. that's when I noticed the oil starting to piss out of the panels directly below the belly of the tail cone... I get up on the stand with him and disconnect and reconnect the relief line and like a garden hose it hisses and blows about 2 quarts into the bucket with some force. One of the few times I chewed someone out. I asked him why on earth if a system can only hold 9 quarts would you pump 10 quarts into it also knowing it had at least 4.5 quarts to begin with. basically the QD coupler was worn out and it couldnt seat properly so the whole time hes pumping hes just pressurizing the sytem with more air and oil than it can hold. Expierence would tell you somthings wrong if you dont smell the oil vapor escaping as your pumping. Needless to say It was a harsh lesson for him. After I called Jet shop out, they confirmed what I already expected. he blew out all the seals in the oil system flooding it out essentially. needed a complete swap and rebuild. No idea what the actual Goverment cost was but id assume in the 6 figures. Of course he got his ass chewed out I took some of the blame as I should. talked to him a few months ago we laughed about it and from the sounds of things I left a good mark on him hes doing well.

Sorry for our tax dollars guys. thats my B lol
 
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So, this wasnt me per say but I was involved. little context
I was a Crew Cheif in the Airforce on a Tanker. I was training 2 newer airmen. Now when I say newer guys, these guys were on the flight line less than a year but had all their qualifications training. so theoretically they were qualified to do all the tasks asked of them within their skill level. However, because no book will replace OJT, we give the new guys a lot of slack in the first year while they work out the kinks. I also was one of the best Crew Chiefs in the unit for my rank, wasn't scared to ask questions, studied the Tech Orders like the bible and volunteered regularly with other specialty's because I had mastered everything in my own career feild minus the tasks that required a higher rank. I usually turned out the best techs on my team. I generally loved teaching and most of my subordinates admired my patience and the way i could adjust quickly to how they learned best. Not one of my proudest moments what happens next.

We were working nights and it was about 2 Am. We had just caught a jet (means just landed). And we were putting it to bed (servicing time sensitive items and doing inspections and shutting it down for the night) Most of the time I had the newbies do tasks that were the least likley to cause damage or bodily harm if done incorrectly and these guys so far were showing me, they were focused and on point. I would periodically check on the work they did while doing my walk around inspection looking for leaks, bird strikes, missing hardware ect... Everything was going good. they serviced the Number 1 and 3 engines with ease and seemed competent in what they were doing. One comes downstairs and says That the APU ---
(Auxilarry Power Unit - basiaclly a small jet engine used as a starter for the bigger jet engines so you dont need to use an outside source of Air or power to get the engines going) --- was low on oil. I said ok you comfortable with servicing it? he said he was good. I quizzed him on a few easy to screw up items which he answered and told him to make sure he did it by the book and stop if you got questions.
Fast forward 15 minutes and I got curious what was taking so long. I go back to the back of the jet and saw him pumping oil from the service cart. I asked him how low it was he said about half way down the needle. I said okay how much have you put in while eyeing 2 cases of oil cans up on the stand... he said Well I refilled the cart 2 times. (cart holds about 5 quarts) The APU if memory serves me right was a 9-quart sealed system because its hidden inside the tail cone of the aircraft. I say sealed because unlike the regular engines it's possible to over service it. It uses 2 Quick disconnect couplers one is a pressure line that feeds the system and the other acts as a overflow/air releif. In theory with the second QD connected you cannot overservice it because as soon as you put the 9 quarts in the any additional fluid will just overflow into a catch bucket on the stand. wellllllllllll as soon as he said that I jokingly asked why he was filling his bucket with oil to which he said nothing came out. that's when I noticed the oil starting to piss out of the panels directly below the belly of the tail cone... I get up on the stand with him and disconnect and reconnect the relief line and like a garden hose it hisses and blows about 2 quarts into the bucket with some force. One of the few times I chewed someone out. I asked him why on earth if a system can only hold 9 quarts would you pump 10 quarts into it also knowing it had at least 4.5 quarts to begin with. basically the QD coupler was worn out and it couldnt seat properly so the whole time hes pumping hes just pressurizing the sytem with more air and oil than it can hold. Expierence would tell you somthings wrong if you dont smell the oil vapor escaping as your pumping. Needless to say It was a harsh lesson for him. After I called Jet shop out, they confirmed what I already expected. he blew out all the seals in the oil system flooding it out essentially. needed a complete swap and rebuild. No idea what the actual Goverment cost was but id assume in the 6 figures. Of course he got his ass chewed out I took some of the blame as I should. talked to him a few months ago we laughed about it and from the sounds of things I left a good mark on him hes doing well.

Sorry for our tax dollars guys. thats my B lol

In the grand scheme of government waste that's not even a blip on the radar. Don't sweat it.
 

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1. I tried adding a 2WD oil filter adapter to my 4WD pickup. the oil cooler lines I bought wouldn't line up so I plugged the adapter holes with rubber stoppers. Fired up the engine and oil spilled all over my driveway. Ended up getting a proper adapter for an old school 350 and having to redo an oil change.

2. Didn't tighten the battery bolts well enough. Went to my truck and it wouldn't start at all. Ended up having it towed to a shop only for them to tell me that my bolts were loose. Thankfully didn't charge me anything.
 

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My adult son has a habit of forgetting things. Like torquing the lug nuts on a wheel on his brother's Super Duty. Finger-tight has become a byword around my place.

In an unrelated, off-handed way, does anyone need a Super Duty wheel with slightly larger holes for the lug studs? Asking for a friend.
 

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Once upon a time, I owned a really large SUV. Ok, well, it was 2 summers ago. I got together a large order from Rock Auto, and I needed to do a little AC work on this behemoth, so I ordered everything I needed to get me some ice cold AC.

This truck has a rear AC, and back there hidden is a place for a special filter. There's also this thing in the front known as an orifice tube. I replaced those things, plus a lot of miscellaneous o-rings, and all the stuff to get AC back up to *****. While on RockAuto, I saw that they had a fancier orifice tube to make idling AC colder. It was about $20 instead of $3. Installed everything, but something was acting a little weird. Ahh, I know. I picked up a cheap blend door on eBay, as this seemed to be the issue.

From that point on, I was tearing my hair out. The rear AC would blast super cold air, and the front was working like junk. Being a smart guy, I troubleshooted this disaster. I installed a digital temperature gauge in the passenger air duct so I could see what was going on. We watched it for months. I blocked the blend door open, because it had some weird issue. I robbed an HVAC controller from another vehicle of the same make.

I fought this thing for half a year plus. As with most battles like this, I replaced extra parts. I ran an OBD-II scanner. It showed that the AC compressor was cycling after about 15 minutes of driving. This caused a false fix mentality several times, because the air would be cold until this cycling. I finally figured out that:

1. The cheap blend door was bad. The original one actually worked still.
2. The special orifice tube was the main issue. My conclusion is that it is a sound design for single-AC systems. But since my rear air had its own TXV, there was not enough pressure to properly open the variable orifice valve properly. It must only work in front-AC-only vehicles. Sure enough, once I installed a regular and cheap orifice tube, my problems went away.
3. Somewhere along the line I replaced the rear TXV, which meant tearing up the back seat area, although I think it was probably the blend door or the stupid orifice tube or the rear filter being clogged.
 
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I had a Blazer that needed a new in-tank fuel pump. I dropped the tank, replaced the pump with a new one, got everything back into place and it wouldn't start.
I started thinking to myself, "I DID plug that new pump in, right?". I did not connect the pump INSIDE the tank. To make matters worse, I coated the top of the tank with sealer before reinstalling it.
 

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I had a Blazer that needed a new in-tank fuel pump. I dropped the tank, replaced the pump with a new one, got everything back into place and it wouldn't start.
I started thinking to myself, "I DID plug that new pump in, right?". I did not connect the pump INSIDE the tank. To make matters worse, I coated the top of the tank with sealer before reinstalling it.
Went through almost the the same thing last year with my GMC pickup, fortunately I hadn't set the bed back down so it was easy to rectify.
A few things came to mind after the truck was running again:
1. Can't fix stupid.
2. The aging process is real.
3. Making fun of yourself is good for the soul.
 

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My adult son has a habit of forgetting things. Like torquing the lug nuts on a wheel on his brother's Super Duty. Finger-tight has become a byword around my place.
My rule is "never put hardware on unless you're going to torque it". I preach it to the race team as well.
 

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My adult son has a habit of forgetting things. Like torquing the lug nuts on a wheel on his brother's Super Duty. Finger-tight has become a byword around my place.

In an unrelated, off-handed way, does anyone need a Super Duty wheel with slightly larger holes for the lug studs? Asking for a friend.

Ehh, slam it back on and unsee the damage. I forgot to torque lugs on the Camaro and headed out on track. Hit the first turn on the out lap and immediately realized what was wrong. Thankfully Hallett being Hallett has a jillion places to sneak a broken car off the track and I got it through the fence before anything fell off.
 

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Like torquing the lug nuts on a wheel on his brother's Super Duty
Had a dakota that started having lugs work loose on the front right wheel. Jack it up, torque them all, next day loose again. After cleaning the studs and nuts several times, I knocked the studs out, pressed new in and replaced with new nuts. Never had that problem again. Ran the same wheel throughout and sold with it still on it to a mechanic friend of mine.
 
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